Wednesday, June 23, 2004

Good for Beisbol?

In the spirit of Jack Buck's post-9/11 baseball address, here's my question and immediate answer: Are the Yankees good for baseball? Yeeessss.

There are many reasons why, but let me Henley it down to the heart of the matter. Last night's game in Camden Yards between the Yanks and O's featured the largest paying crowd in the 12-year history of the park. Nearly 50,000 fans showed up on a random TUESDAY night to either cheer or jeer the Yank'ums.

This weekend, when the Yanks traveled out west for an interleaguer with the Dodgers, more than 165,000 fans turned the gates at Dodger Stadium over the weekend -- the largest three-game series in team history. Team history, think about that, the Dodgers have been around for a loooong time.

So not only do the Yankees have the highest home attendance by more than 6,000 fans at each game, but they have the highest ROAD attendance as well, BY 13,000 OVER THE NEXT HIGHEST TEAM. In fact, the Yanks' road attendance is higher than any other team in the league's home attendance, except of course, the Yankees themselves.

There you have it...are the Yankees good for baseball? That's a resounding "Yes" from ol' Ace Cowboy. Because you know as well as I do, to the owners, baseball is all about the numbers of fans who sit their fat asses in the uncomfortable seats...and the Yankees draw on the road better than every single team does in their own park. God, I love those fuckers.

9 Comments:

At 9:53 AM, Blogger Don Fiedler said...

Is there anything funnier than seeing Jack Buck doing his best Michael J. Fox and saying:

Should we be here today? YYYYYYYYES!

Wow! You should see Bob Handstand do his version of this. It's a classic. Along the lines of Ace's McCarver.

 
At 10:56 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Because you know as well as I do, to the owners, baseball is all about the numbers of fans who sit their fat asses in the uncomfortable seats..."

This is your thesis? Well, then say "The Yankees are good, not for beisbol, but for the owners," you douchebag! You know, I just realized I've never used that as an insult before. 32 years, no "douchebags" muttered under my breath or scrawled in soap on a windshield, nothing.

Good for profitability and good for the GAME of baseball are not the same thing. Hey, I have no problem with Georgie Boy, he's playing within the rules. But if you think all is well in the baseball world because a bunch of front-running fucks and anger management school dropouts want to come out in Baltimore and L.A. and either cheer for Jeter in head-to-toe Yanquis gear or scream until their eyes are bloodshot at an athlete that's wearing a (in the grand scheme of things) silly uniform and playing a game, more power to you. I ain't buying it.

And I have but one beef with New York or northeastern Yankee fans. They're mostly legit. But riddle me this...the Yankees are the crown jewel of Major League Baseball and have been, with the exception of the Mattingly era, well...forever. Everybody knows this. It's accepted as fact by people that couldn't even name three other MLB teams. They're Coca Cola, McDonalds and The Marlboro Man rolled into one. They're The Marlboro Man, lighting up while drinking a Coke and digging into a 12-piece of the new all-white meat nuggets. So to my point (finally)...

If we can all agree on the above, and I think we can, then why in the fuck does every Yankee fan have to justify his/her fandom by constantly cocking off that the the Yankees are great for the game? Shut the fuck up and enjoy your championships.

 
At 11:10 AM, Blogger Don Fiedler said...

Gotta admit it here. I like this fellow's reasoning. Cocking off should never be part of being a fan. NEVER! I think that, as a Yankee fan, I've tried to abide within these anti-cock off rules. When fans of other teams say the Yankees suck, I just smile and say, "no they don't". And I'm right every time. If they start yappin' about the money issue, I just smile and say, "you're jealous cause your owner doesn't spend enough money." I don't get into the good for baseball/bad for baseball thing cause I just like watching homers and winning and sturtze.

 
At 11:41 AM, Blogger Ace Cowboy said...

See, why is it not acceptable for a Yankee fan to say they're good for baseball, but TOTALLY acceptable for Yankee haters to say they're bad for the sport? When that question can be answered in a legit fashion, let me know.

As for the "good for the fans" argument, I have neither the time nor the inclinanation to explain myself...OK, got carried away there with a little Jessup. But who were the last two World Series winners? Where did the high-priced Mets and Dodgers end up the last few years? The Yankees aren't the problem, individual team management is. If I had more time, I'd elaborate, but as it is, this is my two cents...

 
At 11:54 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't want to tackle the issue of who's right and who's wrong. It's not my place. But I will say this...the "Yankees are good for baseball" argument is ONLY acceptable as a defense. When used as an offensive, it's, well, offensive. It's cocking off at that point. Don't we hear enough about the fucking Yankees without every New Yorker crawling out of their apartment window to tell the world how great they are for baseball?

And you, like most Yankee fans (as much as I hate to generalize) use this argument to hide behind the real issues. As I pointed out, your argument wasn't that the Yankees are good for baseball, it was that the Yankees are good for the economy and the accumulation of individual wealth. Make that argument, and no one with any sense can challenge you on it. But when you apply it to baseball as a whole, the health and well-being of the game, prepare to face the unmitigated wrath of TJ and those that support me. You think Phish is subjective? Baseball has a hundred years on those fockers and a few more fans with opinions.

Why the Little Man Complex from so many Yankee fans? Put the "good for the game" crap to bed. Answer your critics with one word: "scoreboard."

 
At 11:56 AM, Blogger poophopanonymous22 said...

i'll field that one ace, it IS acceptable, just not in the pompous manner in which u presented it, what with your capital letters and number tossing every which way but tuesday.


---Your personal Heckler

 
At 12:27 PM, Blogger Don Fiedler said...

TJ--
So does that mean that we Yankee fans can't respond to your post with anything other than "scoreboard"? cause that's not fair. i think most baseball fans need the yankees as something to hate. how much fun would being a red sox fan be if there were no yankees to hate? i venture to guess it wouldn't be so much fun. i mean, they lose all the time. to love something in sports, it helps to hate something with equal passion. is anyone really passionate about the rockies? no. why? cause they have no rival, except gravity. this all speaks to the fact that competitive imbalance is as much a part of american sports as drinking too much and beating your wife. you have to have a stacked team to hate. makes things more interesting. college bball is not as riveting b/c the big schools that used to get the big stars are losing those stars to the NBA. Whereas maybe 5 teams used to enter the tourney with a chance to win, now 25 do. And it's not as much fun, at least not for me. But that's me. And I like the Yankees. And that guy heckles Ace and I love it. as for Ace's original argument based on attendence figures and money, i don't agree. in fact, ace really doesn't either, i'm sure. that doesn't speak to the health of the sport from the fan's perspective. but baseball IS very healthy from a competitive standpoint and an economic standpoint. the market is correcting itself from the spend-spend 90s and lots of teams can win. you've got the big bruising yanks and fun teams like florida and texas. now all we need to do is shed the excess teams (ahem...Montreal, Milwaukee, Pittsburgh, KC). I've rambled and i'm sorry. debate?

 
At 12:31 PM, Blogger Ace Cowboy said...

It's official...The Yankees have joined politics and religion as issues you should never discuss with other humans.

Man, talk about some whiny bitches. I was merely pointing out that it's incredible how many people come out to see the Yankees, and how that possibly cannot be all that bad for the sport. Next thing ya know I'm being crucified like Jim Caviezel in that movie about that guy.

Quit your crying and go back to you jobs people. Except for my personal heckler, you can do whatever you want. I'm laughing here because I'm not even an offensive Yankee fan...just wait 'til the real obnoxious ones wanna dance.

Politics, religion, and the fuckin' Yankees...taboo at all dinner parties from now on.

 
At 2:05 PM, Blogger poophopanonymous22 said...

WHATEVAH, I DO DO WHAT I WANT!! uh hahah haha, do do, there, that should lighten the mood up in this bitch.

ace is right, lets get back to phish reviews and making fun of people on the subways , otherwise the terrorists have won

 

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