Monday, December 05, 2005

Join Tosh: Legalize It

The growing marijuana legalization community already includes such famous conservatives as William F. Buckley, Nobel laureates like Milton Friedman and 500 other economists. There's a burgeoning movement out there, and the law enforcement community is slowly coming out of the closet as well.

So imagine my surprise when Seattle's chief of police penned this editorial for yesterday's Seattle Times. Here's the introduction to the piece -- make sure you read the rest, it's not just a half-baked plan to generate more tax revenue for the government, it actually makes sense from a humanistic perspective:

"Sometimes people in law enforcement will hear it whispered that I'm a former cop who favors decriminalization of marijuana laws, and they'll approach me the way they might a traitor or snitch. So let me set the record straight.

Yes, I was a cop for 34 years, the last six of which I spent as chief of Seattle's police department.

But no, I don't favor decriminalization. I favor legalization, and not just of pot but of all drugs, including heroin, cocaine, meth, psychotropics, mushrooms and LSD."

Not surprisingly, I found that article on the Phish boards today. I also found the following file for download, the rant Trey delivered at the Warfield in San Francisco this weekend after being hit by an empty cup during his mid-show acoustic set.

For some background, Trey doesn't take a setbreak anymore, he plays four or five tunes on the acoustic guitar while the band takes a quick break. Apparently, and this was news to most fans until this speech, concert-goers have been pelting the supremely polarizing figure with shit all tour long.

Finally, he snapped. At the end of Invisible, Trey called out the d-bag who threw the cup, and while it's really sad that people would pay $40 to see him and then throw shit at him, I find it to be poetic justice because Trey once came to my apartment and threw a baking sheet in my face.

"People have been fuckin' hittin' me with shit this whole tour...and I've been putting up with it...whoever's doing that, you're a sad motherfucker and I feel fuckin' sorry for you...all of you...and if it's you in the hat, then FUCK YOU. But I hope it's not you."

Trey played that night with the Dead's two drummers, Billy K and Mickey H -- for an insider's perspective of the collaboration, read Justin Kreutzmann's account.


At 1:15 PM, Blogger TJ in OH said...

Fuck you, fuck you, fuck're cool...fuck you.

At 1:50 PM, Blogger Trix said...

I totally agree with the article. I feel the same way about prostitution. Legalize it, regulate it & tax the hell out of it. I'm not a hooker, I'm just sayin.

What a wonderful world this would be...

At 2:07 PM, Blogger DannyNoonan said...

I think another positive effect of legalizing drugs would be the profit potential for a company that could create better recreational drugs with fewer negative side effect and less potential for addiction. If there was a legitimate market for these recreational drugs, many big companies would hire top scientists to develop better drugs. That'm my hunch anyway.

At 2:27 PM, Blogger Ace Cowboy said...

Danny, that's one of the smartest pieces of original thought I've heard on the topic. Seriously.

The flip side, though, is what's goin' on with stuff like Vioxx. If they make this great heroin that suddenly kills some people, there could be massive amounts of lawsuits that could cripple a legit pharma company. And then fallout would look like this:

"I'm suing you for billions."
"But it's a drug, you should have known the risks."
"If you knew there were risks, then you shouldn't have started making it."
"Eat my shorts."

Verdict: Users win billions, multibillion-dollar company shuts down.

At 2:36 PM, Blogger Matty Mac said...

It's heroine, it's gonna kill you regardless. At least they were attempting to make it better.

A good response would be "Here's a thought, try NOT injecting lethal chemicals into your bloddstream and maybe you won't die."

At 3:28 PM, Blogger ethan said...

i think taxing the hell out of (many) things is terrible. it's often a way for people to impose their morals on others in an indirect way (i.e. "i don't agree that you should consume product x, so i'll make you pay more for it, thus hoping you quit and succomb to my ethos"). i mean, really, how could taxing weed exorbitantly be justfied?

i'm not saying it wouldn't happen, just that it certainly wouldn't make sense.

At 3:28 PM, Blogger ahren said...

" It's heroine, it's gonna kill you regardless. "

>>simply untrue.

At 4:38 PM, Blogger Ace Cowboy said...

When did heroin get an "e"?

And (ir)regardless of that fact, Ahren's right -- just take one look at Keith Richards. Heroin does not automatically kill you.

At 5:05 PM, Blogger DannyNoonan said...

Keith Richards is still alive?!?!

At 5:05 PM, Blogger DannyNoonan said...

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At 5:10 PM, Blogger Matty Mac said...

Please accept my apology for the misspelling of heroin. I was picturing a caped female saving the day. Hence "heroine". How fantastical my mind can be.

Statistically speaking, heroin will eventually kill you. You have your few and far between people who can kick the habit, but last I saw it was something like well over 90% of the people on heroin are addicted for life and end up dying if not directly of an overdose, then in an indirect manner. You also forgot the red-headed fuckface in the list of people on heroin and living today.

Please also accept my apologies for misspelling "bloodstream" as well. My mind was just plain not working at that point. Must be all the heroine.

At 9:23 AM, Blogger hoobs said...

i agree that heroin is definitely a bad thing and will most often lead to disaster, possibly death. however, i alcohol related deaths far outweigh deaths that occur from other substances, yet it is legal. the article is right on, i believe, that substance abuse is a medical and psychological problem, not a legal issue.

At 11:13 AM, Anonymous en regalia said...

alright a few comments

1) ill let jerry speak in validation of that "hunch"

"It's a joke. Greed and the desire to take drugs are two separate things. If you want to separate the two, the thing you do is make drugs legal. Accept the reality that people do want to change their consciousness, and make an effort to make safer, healthier drugs." word up jer

2) i humbly admit having a huge "weakness" for opiates. i have known a few people to pass because of that big fucking primate on their back...but jer was not one of them to be sure...and anyway, i know 3 dozen people maybe who have "kicked" i think the 90% stat is bogus. then again i never went to the needle nor did others i speak of (that i know of)

3) do you really think red beard is still there? i do not and i got close enuff to see the whites of his eyes for each of the 4 shows i saw on this tour...and i have heard him in a swimming pool in AZ say to page "squirming foil"

anyhow my .02 (not BAC thankfully)

At 11:14 AM, Anonymous en regalia said...

by the way, what was the baking sheet being used for?

At 11:21 AM, Blogger ahren said...

the 90% statistic is indeed bogus. recent studies have shown that heroin is among the easiest drug habits to kick... i'll link to said studies when i get a chance to find them online.

also, while i do believe that all drugs should be legal, i have no special love for heroin or anything. i've never used it, and it doesn't appeal to me. but i do have love for reasonable research and statistics.

At 11:48 AM, Blogger Ace Cowboy said...

The baking sheet was Big Red's, he brought it in with him. When it hit me in the face, I think I tasted a bit of nutmeg and Frosted Flakes, though that didn't make sense considering he yelled "I just made pigs in blankets on that thing, you assface" as he threw it. I was really confused. The redheaded fuckface, indeed.

Also, "also, while i do believe that all drugs should be legal, i have no special love for heroin or anything. i've never used it, and it doesn't appeal to me. but i do have love for reasonable research and statistics" might be my favorite quote of the day so far.

Well, maybe second to en regalia's Twain quote from earlier (not posted on Slack): "training is everything. the peach was once a bitter almond. cauliflower is nothing but cabbage with a college education"

At 12:02 PM, Anonymous en regalia said...

yes, please back up stats with research links when possible...personal anecdotes are always welcomed as well (well from this enlightened group at least) i have no particular "love" for opiates, i only know my own biochemistry...i am a fidgety MF I am mildly allergic to alcohol (though i try ot beat this allergy into submission) i get stupid and do dumb things on THC and things like OC or whatever chill my ass out...but i do respekt them and whatnot...def the only drug i could ever do and maintain full productivity at work ...sometimes even higher productivity...this is gospel according to me

At 3:05 PM, Blogger ahren said...

there's an article where jacob sullum references several studies throughout. if you look through his archive, you can maybe find links to the actual data, because i know i've seen them before... but i'm too lazy to look through every article again.

obviously, as the guy who wrote "saying yes: in defense of drug use" he comes at things with a particular viewpoint, but he does seem to use quality data-- often using the data from the government's (who have the opposite viewpoint) own studies.

At 3:46 PM, Anonymous handstand said...

Why does everyone think Trey is/was on heroin? I'm fascinated by this obsession, because unless you're in the band or a really good friend of them, I would think you have no idea what the f*ck you're talking about. Anyone?

At 9:02 AM, Blogger Ace Cowboy said...

I don't know about heroin, but he had sex wif my mama.

At 10:31 AM, Anonymous handstand said...

Well Ace, who the heezy hasn't when you fink 'bout it?

At 10:21 AM, Blogger NYC TAXI SHOTS said...

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