Tuesday, February 28, 2006

Meat the New Boss

We've been on a little bit of an American soccer/Everyone Else football kick here lately, and that'll continue this morning with the hilarious quotation below. Though I must interject, the following article is a lot less about soccer than it is about awful bartering skills.

(I mean, it sure is safer and easier to discuss a little soccer than something like "4 Disney Workers Accused Of Gang-Raping Woman.")

Some Dude over at Hits from the Blog sent me this fine article esta manana, a short piece out of Bucharest concerning the trade of an Eastern European soccer player. As the story goes, and I doubt this is all that uncommon, "Romanian second division soccer club UT Arad sold a player in exchange for 33 pounds of meat."

Here's the rub, though...Instead of honoring the trade, the player opted to retire and find a real job. His original team, miffed by the move, had this to say about the deal:

“We are upset because we lost twice — firstly because we lost a good player and secondly because we lost our team’s food for a whole week.” It just doesn't get any better than that quote.

Moving on...I haven't done this in a long while, but here are my ten favorite Google and Yahoo! search terms that brought people to this here rag over the past 24 hours.

1. I pooped my panties
2. Oprah Winfrey ejaculate
3. "So you've had men ejaculate in your face?"
4. Men ejaculating face Oprah
5. Taking the piss out of people
6. Chad Michael Murray circumsized
7. Hobo Joe Berger's amazing breakthrough
8. Next Stop Pottersville
9. Cowboy sex videos
10. Del Horno fault clip [soccer's bringin' in the int'l audience!]

Slack Link of the Day: From this Rolling Stone article, it appears Beck and Radiohead will be touring together this summer. I'm not a yuge fan of either, but I like and respect both acts, and I think that's just a can't-miss event.

Slack Video of the Day: The Meters, live in 1974

Slack Song of the Day: Well, February 28th has come 'round again, and every fan of the popular rock band Phish is cooing or crowing. On this day, three years ago, the Phish from Vermont took to the Nassau Coliseum stage and played either its best post-hiatus show or the most overrated show in the band's history, depending on which unshowered tour wook you ask.

Personally, and I'm biased because I was there, I'm in the former camp. The band played crisp, top-notch versions of staples like Tweezer, Birds of a Feather, Back on the Train, David Bowie and Harry Hood, threw down a wicked cover of Soul Shakedown Party coming out of Tweezer and, of course, busted out Destiny Unbound for the first time in more than a decade (or nearly 800 shows), then wrapped it all up with a funkin'-then-rockin' three-song encore.

This ain't the best sounding copy, but it's an audience recording, which for the Destiny's sake alone is cool enough. There's nothing like a soundboard, but I always love hearing the audience react to the first note of a tune. Happy anniversary, 2/28/03, despite what the haters say, I'll always love you. Olive juice. Give'r a whirl here.


At 10:55 AM, Blogger misterlister said...

I'll vouch that the Puh-fish show immediately following Nassau was by far the best one I witnessed in the post-hiatus era. I recommend y'all check it out, particularly Trey's really crisp jam on Wolfman's Brother. Thankfully Phil Lesh was not in attendance for vocals. Overrated? Perhaps, but they definitely had something going there.

At 11:16 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

respek! some of the fastest half hours of my life are when i'm listening to that tweezer, such an interesting jam throughout...that bathtub gin was top notch as well

At 11:17 AM, Blogger TJ in OH said...

Only a video clip of The Meters gets you off the hook for failing to recognize 7/29/03 as the best post-hiatus show.

At 12:06 PM, Blogger Ace Cowboy said...

As we've often discussed, TJ, the "Being There" factor is huge. And 7/29 and 2/28 each have their fair share of gimmicks, so that cancels each other out as well. I just don't think we're gonna be able to have an impartial decision coming from either of us.

7/29 slays me every time I listen to it...but I do think of it as a gimmick kind of show, whereas even though there is the Destiny, I think 2/28 is more of a typical Phish show. The BOTT, Gin and Tweezer are all monumental in my eyes, whereas 7/29 only offers me Crosseyed and Painless in terms of kick-my-ass, shit-on-my-tits kind of jams. Maybe that's wrong, and I'm just being biased, but that's the way I sees it. Still, I'd have LOVED to have been at 7/29. Half way between Erie and Pittsburgh...

Lister, are you talkin about 3/1? I kinda lost you there...

At 12:37 PM, Blogger TJ in OH said...

I think we should both reconsider our gimmick truce on these shows and in evaluating the band in general. Because really, Phish in a way is all about the gimmick. It's a big part of what they do.

The mega-fests, NYE stunts, Halloween covers, trampolines, Fishman numbers, rotation jams, vocal jams, language, chess with the audience...these guys are the PT Barnum of rock and roll.

So with that in mind, you have to throw the gimmick evaluation factor out the window. Thus, you can't look at Daniel, Camel Walk, C&P, Brother (Brother!) and Harpua in that light. The Daniel is sharp as a tack (or hot as pistol, as the kids seem to say these days) and the Camel Walk and C&P are great, too.

I haven't listened to 2/28 much (and not at all for at least a year and a half), so I can't be a fair judge. But you have to concede that from a setlist perspective, 7/29 is vastly superior. Sure, it doesn't have a Tube or PYITE or Tweezer, but that's really the only knock I can make against it.

So we've discussed the finer points, let's talk about the duds. I look at 2/28 and I see some yawners on there - Sleep, Bouncing, Round Room, Mexican Cousin, maybe Walls. The only clunkers on 7/29 were Thunderhead and Fooled Around. Even the Jiboo was smokin' and the first of that tour. Even WtCC was great, and Bittersweet gets a pass for the Erie/Pittsburgh connection.

At 12:47 PM, Blogger TJ in OH said...

And just so it doesn't get lost in this Phish geekdom, godDAMN how hot were The Meters back in the day!?

Ace, you better be front and center when they play at Langerado.

At 1:05 PM, Blogger ahren said...

2/28 is one of the all-time greatest in my opinion, but i might be biased by substances, or the sweet vantage point i had, right behind one page mcconnell...

the overlooked song from that show is get back on the train, which was really smokin' (and i've often found that song to be kinda flat)

At 1:41 PM, Anonymous JMoney said...

That Meters show is pretty hot. 2/28 is not even the best show they played that week! Worcester 2/26 was (severely underrated show). It's a good show but best ever? It's not even in the same league as the Nassau 4/3/98 Island Tour show.

PT caused post-hiatus fans to be more stat-influenced. Bustouts became more important than jams. Harpua is great but pre-hiatus it wouldn't make or break a show. Best post-hiatus show falls somewhere in Miami, Saratoga or Limestone. It's all about the jams.

At 1:52 PM, Blogger Ace Cowboy said...

J-Money, rest assured, TJ and I (I'm not sure about Ahren, but I imagine so) would never put either of those shows, nor really any post-hiatus up with the pinnacle of Phishness. That's why God invented the words post-hiatus. And when Phish comes back the next time, it'll be post-post-hiatus, and I'm sure it'll be much different than even post-hiatus. Man, that was confusing to even type.

I've heard 2/26, and 2/26 is no 2/28. I think people are so quick to hate 2/28 because it got such a good rep on PT at first that they're willing to compromise their standards and look for faux-greatness. I would argue that the Cincy weekend as a whole was better than 2/28, but that was more due to the coolness of the scene there and the energy inside that place.

Ahren, I mentioned in the post how good GBOTT was, and I think I mentioned it once in the comments. It may be underrated in general, but around these parts, I consider that to be the highlight of the show. In fact, I'd rank it like this:

1. GBOTT/BOTT (Make up your mind on which acronym is right, Phish fans)
2. Tweezer > SSP
3. Destiny bustout
4. Bathtub Gin (though Cincy the week before was better)
5. Contact funk jam

Oh, and TJ, I ain't goin to Langerado any more. With Red Cowboy's kid on the way and a last-minute trip to LA planned for late March, and with TLG playing two nights in NYC that weekend, I decided to skip it. As such, if anyone needs a Langerado ticket, I can provide...

At 2:26 PM, Blogger TJ in OH said...

Jmoney, I'll meet you somewhere in the middle and say that it's somewhat about the jams...

I too adore the jams, but let's be honest...a show with weak song selection - even with exemplary jamming - is still a show with weak song selection. A show with inventive jamming and flubbing during the composed sections is still marked because of it. I think when assessing a show you have to consider all of the components, jamming being one of them.

Ace, only a weekend of TLG excuses you for missing Langerado, especially considering that you were Mr. Langerado for the past 12 months.

The Meters are in town next weekend, though, no? You gotta go. Do it for me.

At 2:27 PM, Blogger TJ in OH said...

Taught to be Proud just now on Sirius...

At 2:38 PM, Blogger Ace Cowboy said...

Leo and George are here on Saturday at BB Kings...right now I plan on going. It all depends on when Red Cowboy's wifey squeezes out this bebe.

At 2:57 PM, Blogger Kenny Alias said...

As one who was at both 7/29 and 2/28, I have a hard time picking which one was the superior show.

I had a better time at 7/29 because
it was a beautiful summer night in an awesome venue. And because I drove 7 hours straight in a car that was overheating and I was just ecstatic to make it. And finally, because I saw that show solo. I knew noone there and for some reason when I go to shows by myself I have a blast.

However, musically, I think 2/28 is the more impressive show. I think the jams were a little more sophiticated and tighter sounding and the show in general was a little less gimmickier.

That being said, I think the recordings are kinder to 2/28 because the recordings don't remind you that it was rainy and cold on 2/28 and it was the perfect summer night on 7/29. Weather and venue are huge in my book.

At 3:12 PM, Anonymous JMoney said...

agreed Kenny- 7/29 was a much more fun show to be at but 2/28 is a better show musically. if Phish came back now it would be post-breakup. then you would have pre-breakup which would be pre-hiatus plus post-hiatus.

as a side note to 7/29; the girl who sold the Fishman Hit On Me bumper stickers that Trey slyly references in the Harpua was actually not at the 7/29 show.

At 3:19 PM, Anonymous HANDSTAND said...

Having not been at either of the two shows debated here, I think I would choose to be at the 7/29 show over the Nassau one.

I think personally, I just lean a little more on the side of "fun" shows instead of ones that melt my face, although I do enjoy the latter tremendously.

Daniel opener, Cool it Down, Camelwalk, Brother, Crosseyed, Harpua with the hilarious cover of Folled Around Fell in Love.....wa wa wee wa! I would have been a smilin' fool by the end of that show. And i think thats what would have given it the edge for me.

That being said the 1-2 punch of Saratoga is better than them both.

And furthermore, Saratoga has nothing on the 4-3-98 show, my biggest regret in Phistory, due to travels abroad in the Nederlands.

At 3:41 PM, Blogger Kenny Alias said...

jmoney - I didn't know that about the bumper sticker girl. What show was she at?

In regard to that Harpua, another little highlight was the reference to the impending IT Festival (Jimmy searching for "it.")

Not that such things get me that riled up generally, but 7/29 was the first show of that run that I saw and I was on board until IT so it seemed like I had just caught the beginning of the end.

At 3:51 PM, Blogger Ace Cowboy said...

I've genuinely enjoyed this debate, and the beauty of it all is that there is no right answer. Pheesh Beauty is truly in the eye of the wookish beholder.

BUT, I am strong in my conviction that 6/19/04 is way more overrated than 2/28/03. That second set is pretty damn good, but outside of the Piper and the Reba (that Piper by the way is my absolute favorite post-hiatus jam), I think it's largely overrated. I'm pissed I had to miss 6/20, but the Boys made up for it by playing on Letterman's marquee the next day.

At 4:26 PM, Anonymous JMoney said...

if I remember correctly, the "Fishman Hit On Me" bumper sticker girl was selling them in the lots Fall 2000 and she said she gave one to Mike to give to Fish. She's a friend of a friend and I think I met her West Coast Fall '00 and she had the stickers & story then but I'm not positive on the date.

At 7:24 PM, Blogger ahren said...

as an attendee of both the 2/26 and the 2/28, i can agree with the idea that they belong in the same discussion. i just happen to prefer the 2/28.

also as someone who places almost zero stock in setlists and "bustouts," i'll say that i thought "destiny" was the low point of the 2/28 show... but the tweezer was an absolute monster.

and yes, i'm a post-hiatus-lover and i'll never be any good...

At 8:31 PM, Blogger Ace Cowboy said...

I also love me some post-hiatus, but I always acknowledge at least that Phish and Phish 2.0 were two different animals. And I even think the band reached peaks in some of their post-h jams that they never climbed to before the (first) break.

I always thought the difference was this: There were just as many highlights in the post-h era, but they forgot how to go from start to finish consistently. I feel like once they stopped scripting shows, the full fuck-your-face from opener to encore wasn't a nightly occurrence anymore. I still left entertained EVERY single time, and I think all my show experiences rank among up there with any other night or weekend or week of live music.

Just sayin', despite my love for the 02-04 days, I personally like to distinguish between pre- and post-hiatus. Not judging.

As for the Destiny, I can see the "It's a bustout, get over it" argument, but I don't buy it. Dude, do me a solid (or whatever the devil it is youkids call it) and LISTEN to that Destiny tonight. Turn it up and let it fly. It's stellar, seriously awesome. Now on top of this goodness, add in the fact that they hadn't played the song since November 1991. I mean, overrated as a cool fact, maybe, but that's just sweet.

I have no point to all this rambling. It's just nice to talk about the phish.

At 9:35 PM, Anonymous HANDSTAND said...

RE: Saratoga vs. Nassau

Agree to disagree?

But 'tis true that this thread proves there is no greater band.

At 10:47 PM, Blogger Kenny Alias said...

I hate to open another can of worms here but:

12/29/03 v. the holocaust

At 9:18 AM, Blogger Ace Cowboy said...

12/7/97 v. The Hindenburg?
12/31/95 v. Japanese Internment Camps?
8/9/98 v. The 2005 Jets?

At 12:42 PM, Blogger misterlister said...

Yeah, I was talking about 3/1 in Greensboro.

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